CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY STUDENT SENATE

85th SESSION, 2005-2006

SENATE MINUTES

Wednesday, November 9th 2005

Forrest B. Hinton, Student Senate President, Presiding

Roll Call

There were forty-one (41) Senators (Adams, Barnes, Bellamy, Brannan, Carter, Collins, Compton, Culp, E. Evans, Fabricius, Gardner, Griggs, Gula, Hankins, Hughes, Hutcherson, Kersh, Kling, Lam, Melton, Mickey, Miller, Musick, K. Phillips, Salama, Santiago, Saunders, Sawrey, Sevits, Shivers, R. Smith, Sohail, Templeton, Waldrup, Wally, Walton, J. Washington, Whitehouse, Winfree, Wood, Yasin) present. There were also two (2) non-voting members (F. Hinton, Toms) present.

There were nineteen (19) Senators (Cariaga, Chamblee, Dimond, Maria Evans, Gluck, Godfrey, Haggard, Hardy, Heath, Hester, Hoy, M. Lloyd, Mckethan, Moye, Oluronbi, Rice, Salmon, Downing Adam for Stephenson, Weston) absent.

A quorum was present.

Approval of the Journal

All Journals will be approved at the November 30th meeting.

Receipt of Petitions and Correspondence; Guest Speakers

- Dr. Deb Luckadoo and the Student Centers Expansion Task-Force

If you have any questions please feel free to ask, this is a great idea…we were informed that our formula was not quite right we are trying to combine different salaries, we would like to do as much as we can to get as much space as we can with as little money as possible, the task force will compile not filter the information, this is a several year process, Tally has great needs, it is a great location for central campus we are trying to get more student friendly space in Tally

Jessica Horton (CSLEPS): We want to expand current facilities and have space to be very flexible, create more “student friendly” buildings, in order to reach this we have three current options.

Q: Senator Fabricius

Q: Senator Sawrey: Will I see this before I graduate.

A: No, probably not

Q: Senator Hutcherson: One thing we could recommend is to use the space upstairs, as a student I believe that price is an intricate part of student centers, you’ve heard individuals offer price and office space are you going to bring these issues to the committees

A: Jessica Horton: There will be more space

- Mr. Bobby Mills, UNCASG Project

We sponsored a phone call in's, and if you have any comments please give them to Haley

Letter of Resignation

- Consent of Hardy’s resignation

- Consent of Weston’s resignation

- Consent of Melton’s resignation

Reports of the Officers

- Mr. Seneca Toms, Student Body Treasurer

Good Evening, I have a new comptroller appointment, I would like to thank the appropriations committee, I would also like to thank the senators that sponsored those request, if you go to treasury website the student government budget will be online, the tables are here. Chap 5 revisions review coming up this evening

- Albert Minn: I’m speaking on half of Jennifer (student chief justice)

This evening, we’ve had two suspensions since our last meeting, the judicial board is concerned with 78 and 79 and there are some inaccuracies in these resolutions, resolution 78 does not resolve student behaviors, also not pictures that are the only thing being taken into account in these cases, and the fact that this information was able to be viewed by board is already stated, all things stated 79 were already stated in student conduct, the office of student conduct is not going out to browse wolf web and face book

Senator Fabricius: moves to take SR 16 from the table

Moving into consideration of SR 16

Consent called and objected too

Minn: I was told by Paul Cousins that I was not needed to be here for confirmation

Hutcherson: The student government statutes show how someone is confirmed if you follow those how can you not follow those and uphold the constitution

Minn: our is not based upon student constitution, but rather board of trustees, the confirmations by senate have had no bearings on how people are confirmed

Toms: We you aware that you can not be paid without being confirmed?

Minn: This is not an issue

Senator Adams: I had a question about the resolution concerning the resolution being unethical

Minn: It is the judicial boards opinion, not mine only

Q: Senator Barnes: You said that the office of student conduct has the right to examine personal right to view electronic evidence and I’m wondering where they have received the right to do that

SSP Hinton: He can’t just obtain that information

Minn: Paul Cousins has the right to obtain information through ITD, it is my understanding that these sponsors did not talk to the student conduct board, the authority is probably derived through the board of trustees

Q: Senator Adams

Minn, we believe that the word incriminating should be removed because the senate should be enforcing the students to act ethically

Q: Senator Barnes: We are supporting what your boss said

Minn: We believe that we should not lead them to remove incriminating evidence but rather to act ethically

Senator Hutcherson: The student body statues are ethical and he said that if you had any embarrassing items to remove it

Minn: I think that incriminating and embarrassing are two different things

Senator Hutcherson: I find it highly disturbing that administrators believe you can ignore the constitution

Minn: Our power does not come through constitution

Q: Senator Sawrey: Were you at the town hall meeting

Minn: Correct, I’m stating our position on these two resolutions and the judicial board operates with the board of student conduct

Senator Hutcherson: if there are pictures that show unlawful acts should students leave them of take them down

Minn: The office of student conduct is advocating that students act appropriately

SSP Hinton: Have the students seen the evidence

Minn: 4 are being processed through University Housing and 5 through student conduct, the ones through student conduct will see al evidence

Q Senator Sevits: If information to be used against you isn’t available before you’re being charged, student conduct can hold it as a lingering threat, the student knows about it but can’t react about it until student conduct does the first step.

Minn: Its not something that the office of student conduct does indiscriminately, as far as office of student conduct obtaining evidence for a certain period of time I have no evidence or information

Q: Senator Sawrey: do you feel that it would be helpful to the students to know whether it would be helpful for students to be able to know the student conducts jurisdiction

Minn: student code of conduct article 4.1

- Mr. Whil Piavis, Student Body President

Thank you for working on the chained by tuition campaign, this Wednesday the Bowles will be at the Chancellor’s house but he will not be bale to address issues because he is not the president yet, because of parking fine cuts the red terror has no money, and it will come out of student fees community service and service Raleigh has gone under way and Night walk is approaching fast and the ASG retreat went well this weekend and Jason Moody has been fired

Q: Hutcherson: What is going on with mission Mardi gras

A: SBP: We have pushed this into the spring

Q: Fabricius: As you know we are dealing with the judicial board separation from the SG and there is a referendum up tonight, are you willing to sign this

- Hinton: Tonight we are going for the final step so that students will be voting to separate this

A: SBP: Yes I will be signing this

Mr. Hisham Salama, Student Senate President Pro Tempore

I apologize for not being at the meeting last week, I’m always available for contact, and if you have any questions ask now

Mr. Forrest Hinton, Student Senate President, chains by tuition is going well, also we will be advocating on capital hill against the higher education bill, we do want to make sure they see us The face book town hall meeting was a success, “students need to be involved with this new conversation”, good job appropriations committee, appeals very thorough, we did receive a response from Chancellor Oblinger, and he really does want students on the commission for athletic event improvements, and he does respect restrictions on tailgating, we talked about student centers fee as well, I suggested more students be on fee review committee, make sure you are present at the meeting

Senator Phillips and Senator Compton: They have been hitting up the large organizations. Want each senator to reach the 100. Next week is the big push. Currently turned in are 2000 links.

Reports of Senate Standing Committees

Sen. James Hankins, Academics Committee, Chairman

We had people from IT come in and talk about shifting of emails to one account and at our next meeting we will have someone from administrations come in and talk about affirmative action

Sen. Zach Adams, Campus Community Committee, Chairman

I will be talking about GB 63 when it comes up

Sen. Erich Fabricius, Finance Committee, Chairman

We took care of essentially two issues and we interview the comptroller and talked about a fast track of her confirmation and we want to place GB 82 for the first reading and the second request is to allow a non germane amendment (AB 67) to suspend restrictions for this explicit purpose only

Sen. Ken Hoy, Government Operations Committee, Chairman

Sen. Walton, we took under consideration different measures including SB 05, we also took under consideration SB 76

Sen. Alex Carter, Public Affairs Committee, Chairman

We discussed R: 24

Sen. Erin Lam, Tuition and Fees Committee, Chairman

The next thing we will be working will be contacting deans of each college to see if they are spending it correctly

Sen. Andrew Barnes, University Affairs Committee, Chairman

Good evening…the director of transportation came in and currently there are no plans to change bus routes for next semester and we talked about a port city java, which will be placed, on centennial campus

Sen. Yasin: Night walk is Nov 21st and will start on multi purpose room

Reports of Senate Select Committees

Sen. Tracy Hutcherson, Appropriations Committee, Chairman

I would like to thank my committee, if you have anything not germane to appropriations bill feel free to ask me now

Sen. Erich Fabricius, Government Simplification Committee, Chairman

We are not touching student body constitution, we will meet three more times this semester, we will be talking about over arching issues dealing with government framework we will be broad looking at items which affect the entire Student Gov. and then we will break that down into the specific branches

A Discussion by the Select Committee on Government Simplification

Comments/Announcements

Sen. Hoy

Sen. Adams: tomorrow night we will be having that poker tournament we had sent out emails about

Sen. Hankins

President of underwater robotics clubs (Sterling Green): we are here to listen to the amendment on appropriations because we did not get funding

Sen. Mickey: One of the main things with University Dining we talked about is that there is no dining plan on centennial campus

Jessuca Horton: Next week is national hunger week

Sen. Sevits: [Read response from the Inter-Residence Council regarding the alleged Alexander alcohol policy violations] IRC feels that is was unfortunate that students were accused for these incidents however they feel that University Housing followed correct procedure in handling the situation, following through with sanctions. IRC has utmost confidence in University Housing to continue to address the situation but also
would like to participate in further discussion regarding the issues surrounding these incidents. -- The dining committee met recently and is looking for student feedback on options for centennial. I plan to get with Sen. Barnes and the Univ. Affairs committee to discuss this later however I felt I should mention this for anyone is also interested in this issue. This is an issue I’m looking to help address.

Sen. Waldrup:

Sen. Hutcherson: This coming Friday is veterans day…

Approval of comptroller

Murden: I have a background in finance and we have plans to balance the checkbooks

SR 81, Student Body Comptroller (Murden) Confirmation [fast-track requested]

Approved by consent

First Reading of Bills and Resolutions

PB 77, Dance Marathon Appropriation Act (Compton, Lam, Walton) sent to finance committee

R 78, Student Conduct Caution Act (Adams, Heath, Walton) [fast-track requested] will be fast tracked

R 79, The Facebook Act (Adams, Heath, Walton) [fast-track requested] will be fast tracked

SR 80, AD for Recreate State (Perry) Confirmation sent to committee on campus community

SR 81, Student Body Comptroller (Murden) Confirmation [fast-track requested] approved

Second Reading of Bill and Resolutions

GB 63, Ticket Policies Act (Adams)

Sen. Adams: We kept the same statues, if you have any questions please come to me

Consent to approve and objected to

Period of debate

Sen. Cariaga Within the state of North Carolina you can sell tickets at least 3 dollars above and you can take as much as someone offers

Sen. Adams: We don’t want any student to get a ticket with the intentions of selling a ticket, we don’t want any incentive

Approved by consent

GB 72, Judicial Branch Referendum (Hoy)

Hoy: this is pretty self-explanatory

Approved by consent

SR 73, Judicial Referendum Election Order (Fabricius)

Fabricius: This one is to actually make the voting happen

Q: Sen. Hoy: if the students turned this down what would happen

A: We would come back together and re-look at the constitution

Passed by consent

AB 68, Fall 2005 Appropriations Act (Hutcherson and Toms)

Sen. Hutcherson: There are a few issues brought up by individuals I hope they looked at the packet

Q: Compton: did they vote whether the underwater clubs is feasible or not

A: yes they did, that should be on the report

Q; Hoy is there some way we can enact a 20 min rule

A: No we have already enacted a 5-min rule for this amendment

Consent called and objected too

Sen.: Compton: Are we 7 dollar short

Sen. Hutcherson: We are 18 dollars positive

Carter: I would like to propose an amendment to approve the 300 start up funds

Consent to approve denied

Hisham Salama: takes over senate as a whole body

N: Compton: the committee passed by general consent that any committees which did not show up did not get money

P: Fabricius: The concepts of the amendments should be dismissed at hand

I think this group deserves attention

N: Sawrey: I think it is unfair you are taking the money from two of my organizations, I trust Tracy I trust their leadership

N/P: Hutcherson If both of these organizations had come they would have been approved

Voting to amend the bill

Voting by a voice vote

The nays have it

AR 14 Underwater Robotics Club and insert 600

P: Adams, The underwater robotics club came to their meeting, I feel that they deserve at least something from SG

P: Hankins: This is a good opportunity for our university

N: Walton: I deferred my judgment to those who are engineer majors, due to the past this project failed, I deemed their success very low

P: Mickey: This is a little bit different than an event, NC State is really a technology school

N: Hutcherson: This is something we did wrestle with in the committee

Friendly amendment

Carter: I withdrawal my amendments

Subtract 300 from men’s lacrosse club and 300 from wolves din in order to give money to underwater robotics

N: Hutcherson: One thing we did ask for this year was a complete budget, lacrosse is expensive and there is a lot of funding that is being given to athletics

P: Lam: In order to balance we must subtract money form somewhere

N: Whitehouse: It is important to represent our school

N: Heath: Wolves D.I.N needs money and if they don’t receive funding they will have to raise ticket price

Vote on taking away money from men’s lacrosse and the wolves D.I.N (just a recommendation)

Friendly passed-----committee as a whole

We will now move out of committee as a whole

Roll call vote

There were twenty-eight (28) Senators (Adams, Bellamy, Brannan, Carter, Culp, Dimond, E. Evans, Gardner, Hoy, Hughes, Kersh, Kling, Lam, Mickey, Moye, Musick, Oluronbi, K. Phillips, Salama, Santiago, Saunders, Sawrey, Sevits, Shivers, R. Smith, Stephenson, Wally, Winfree) voting in the affirmative. There were eighteen (18) Senators (Barnes, Cariaga, Collins, Compton, Fabricius, Griggs, Gula, Haggard, Hankins, Heath, Hutcherson, Miller, Templeton, Walton, J. Washington, Whitehouse, Wood, Yasin) voting in the negative. There were no Senators present but not voting.

There were fourteen (14) Senators (Chamblee, Maria Evans, Gluck, Godfrey, Hardy, Hester, M. Lloyd, Mckethan, Melton, Rice, Salmon, Sohail, Waldrup, and Weston) absent.

A quorum was present The motion to amend AB 68, Fall 2005 Appropriations Act, requiring two-thirds support for adoption, was not agreed to by a margin of 28-18.

AB 68, Fall 2005 Appropriations Act passed by consent

R 78, Student Conduct Caution Act (Adams, Heath, Walton) [fast-track requested] will be fast tracked

Sen. Adams: most students support this, this is an issue, especially since electronic sources are becoming more popular

Voting on friendly amendment: Ayes have it

R 78 passes by consent

R 79, The Face book Act (Adams, Heath, Walton) [fast-track requested] will be fast tracked

Senate Heath: this would require student conduct to have in written material stating that they can use face book

Period of debate

P: Walton, housing failed to follow a uniform and just policy, we need to be the voice of the students

N: Carriaga: I’m an RA and personally I wouldn’t turn anyone in on Facebook but I can see why other RA’s would

P: Hutcherson: the pictures out of context are a different story

N: Barnes: I am going to have to vote against this, I think they followed a uniform and just procedure

Amendment passed by 28-9

Bill sent back to committee

Miscellaneous Business

Comments/Announcements

Hutcherson: who is the individual that does want us to include price?

Compton: You need to sign up if you haven’t

Sevits: What we do enacting legislation is a little important but what is really important is what we do out of this room. I heard people yelling their votes tonight on the bill we just passed. [Notes strongly that he hopes the Student Senate would be committed to actions to bring about positive long term changes beyond only action by legislation and suggests how to become involved; joining the Inter-Residence Council Emerging Issues committee being one way to work towards future improvements as this will be an issue they are looking to address this year].

Roll Call

There were forty-three (43) Senators (Adams, Barnes, Bellamy, Brannan, Cariaga, Carter, Collins, Compton, Culp, Fabricius, Gardner, Griggs, Gula, Haggard, Hankins, Heath, Hoy, Hughes, Hutcherson, Kersh, Kling, Lam, Mickey, Miller, Moye, Musick, Oluronbi, K. Phillips, Salama, Santiago, Saunders, Sawrey, Sevits, Shivers, R. Smith, Stephenson, Wally, Walton, J. Washington, Whitehouse, Winfree, Wood, Yasin) present. There were also two (2) non-voting members (F. Hinton, Toms) present. There were fifteen (15) Senators (Chamblee, Dimond, E. Evans, Maria Evans, Gluck, Godfrey, Hester, M. Lloyd, Mckethan, Rice, Salmon, Shaw, Sohail, Templeton, and Waldrup) absent.

Adjourn